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Spookytooth
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#16 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 18:46
I have heard of it but not on the news. My belief is if they let info out on a mass scale through the media, all of the (Green) products that you pay dbl the money for would and may lead to a a forced investigation as to how legitamite are these (GREEN) Company's and how much truth is in the facts of the so called CLIMATE SCIENTIST. This could be one of the worst blows ever delt to the WORLD let alone the USA. & with the WORLD ECONOMY the was it is right now, WILL NOT take a blow that hard. (HISTORY SHOWS US THIS FACT!!! Im not saying don't purchase these products, but Im saying KNOW the reason you do things. AS we tell people on this fourm READ, SEARCH OUT THE TRUTH!!! There are weather records from the 1800's and before from around the world that show THE SAME PATTERNS as what is going on today.
Mr. Steve is very correct that "THE WORLD IS CHANGING AND ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL.
Old Dog:
livestock produce 18% of the greenhouse gases in the US,

You too Sir are very correct. I live In Carbondale Il. Home of Southern Illinois Univesity. The #1 research facility on dairy cattle in the world. I work with a guy who used to be head of the Agriculter Dept there . (Now Retired) These are Subjects that we have talked about many times and he has confirmed that this true. Its kinda weird when you drive by some of the cattle fields and see dairy cattle running around with a big plastic screw on lids attached their side. (ITS CRAZY LOOKING THE FIRST TIME YOU SEE IT) These animals are perfectly happy. They live normal healthy lives and some are very spoiled, but they are like this to find out info on how to cut down on these gases as well as other livestock problems. I think this is a good subject and not politcal on this level but as you dive further into this subject it is very political. There are problems we know In LA, CHICAGO, NEW YORK, ECT. But also Take a look @ INDIA, I have one very good friend who is a politician. He is Il Senator John Bradley. I've Know John since we were 8 years old and this is one, of the topics that is on his plate right now because of the (GREEN ENERGY ) programs that are going on in Chicago to collect energy using wind turbines on top of building in Chicago. Sometimes I wonder who is the dumber of the two,The bovine or the human cattle

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Popkorn
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#17 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 19:37
We do need to get off of fossil fuels. It's not so much the so called "green house gasses" but the filth that accompanies it. Acid rain, mercury etc. Smog is not healthy. Cancer rates are at an all time high. IMO it has a lot to do with burning fossil fuels.

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Old Dog
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#18 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 19:57
Popkorn:
We do need to get off of fossil fuels.

NO, then we won't have anything to run our Knocks on.

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CapnRoger
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#19 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 20:28
Old Dog:
NO, then we won't have anything to run our Knocks on.

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Trexducatis
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#20 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 20:55
If the population of the world each had 1 horse as they did 100 years ago...the city streets would be 6 feet deep with horsesshit ..worldwide. I'll take my chances until we find a feasible useable way to power our Bikes and cars. Either way..no way I'm giving that up!

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kikker5150
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#21 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 22:20
Here is a news report from overseas regarding this story. If you are one of those who have heard nothing on this I ask that you view the report and then ask yourself why the media in THIS country have completely ignored the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TbEgSj4Izk&feature=player_embedded

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Vegas Rick
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#22 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 22:26
Scare tactics have been used for centuries to control the population and guide it into a direction that the powers that be feel the people need to go. (For the folks who are fans of reading, please refer to Frank Herbert's Dune series, more pointedly God Emperor of Dune with Leto II's Golden Path to understand what I mean.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Path_(Dune)

It's the misuse of this power and the final destination of the path the population is being led to that needs to be checked and thought about. Everybody believes that they know what is right for the world and condemn all that beg to differ.

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boondockjosh
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#23 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 22:30
Old Dog:
18% of the greenhouse gases in the US, and that it was more than ALL the cars in the world combined put out. This topic isn't political really, it's neither one side or the other party wise. It is the people getting screwed by all the leaders, no matter which party they are.

im a environmental engineer and i can tell you that the 18% is wrong! live stock releases methane which is 6 times more damaging effects than carbon dioxide. and if want to know why then i can tell you in great detail why this is...
Orange Al:
The gobal warming issue is a SCAM!!

i disagree.. i have compiled and historic/current data analysis on snow, rain in respect to elevation, aspect, longitude and latitude for the sierra Nevada mountains here in california. it was very clear from the data that the snow line is moving to higher elevations and in lower elevations were there used to be snow there is now rain.. again i can explain why this... the overall reason why this is happening is because global warming... no other natural event here in the west could explain this phenomenon.

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kikker5150
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#24 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 22:52
boondockjosh:
it was very clear from the data that the snow line is moving to higher elevations

I completely agree. Yosemite valley and Hetch Hetchy valley used to be full of ice. I think its called a glacier? That's what forms hanging valleys.

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Canadian Kelley
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#25 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 23:06
I'm just glad global warming, plastic islands and holes in the ozone is being reported at all.

I personally think that humans are playing a big part in climate change.

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hornfixer
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#26 | Posted: 26 Nov 2009 23:15
I heard everyone in CA.......... might have to replace their TV with a flat screen !!

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Trexducatis
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#27 | Posted: 27 Nov 2009 01:57
Obviously the real issue is with air quality and not a change in temps. Don't believe me..fly up here to AK and take a breath. Its noticeably better.
The earth has an eliptical orbit..that distance from the sun is what effects temperatures and gravimetric changes most. Over thousands of years it fluctuates to extremes causing a change in average temps bringing about ice ages and series of warmer temp records as well. Didn't we all learn this in science class? There is too much money being made in doing studies and selling carbon credits for our government to be open on the subject..they get their cut.
Its too friggen cold to ride here...Alaskan Bikers FOR Global warming!
As far as knocks..we produce less emmisions than diesels or larger displacement engines and save gobs of fuel resources and expenses at the same time. Big oil hates the little guy that has found independance from their clutches. Be it solar wind or other other energy..they won't make the money that they have become accustomed too and again...the Gov. gets their cut. Best thing we can do for the planet and to reduce this politcal and fiscal enslavement is ride your knock. Why do you think asian and european countries have such huge numbers of scooters and mopeds on the road? Because they figured this out many years ago and has been propagated by the necessity for fuel savings due to price and availability.
We do it with an American flair....and that is what excites many people when they see you cruise by. Many people say thats cool or damn thats a cute bike....but when I say it gets 75-100mpg...the jaw drops and they ask how much..then the eyes pop open. There is more to Knocking than looking cool for cheap...it is a movement that can change our society and change the future for our children.

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Hollerin Jer
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#28 | Posted: 27 Nov 2009 08:12
Vegas Rick:
Everybody believes that they know what is right for the world and condemn all that beg to differ.



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jayward
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#29 | Posted: 27 Nov 2009 12:48
i won't be here long enough to really give a shit... but yes, it's bullshit.

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Spookytooth
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#30 | Posted: 27 Nov 2009 12:53
kikker5150:
Here is a news report from overseas regarding this story. If you are one of those who have heard nothing on this I ask that you view the report and then ask yourself why the media in THIS country have completely ignored the story:

http

Good Find. Thats what Im talking about. Search for info out there that have both PROS & CONS, Then make up your own mind based on YOUR RESEARCH.

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